tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7729562980132720815.post8372085131117247431..comments2024-03-22T02:27:30.009-05:00Comments on Royal World: Some thoughts on ReligionTheodore Harveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16242452485576182841noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7729562980132720815.post-29282741078322922402014-02-14T13:29:06.004-06:002014-02-14T13:29:06.004-06:00It's sadly a truth. American Episcopalians ten...It's sadly a truth. American Episcopalians tend to have overall more liturgical strictness than American Roman Catholics. <br /><br />Although a Traditional Catholic myself, I've some ties to the Brazilian Anglican Church - A closed family friend is an Episcopal priest -, then I can tell the situation here is rather the opposite. <br /><br />Brazilian Anglicanism, alhough not so strong, is mostly made of ultra-liberal former Catholics. Most of its clergy is made of former seminarians linked to thje Liberation Theology. Then, liturgy is quite lax at most parishes. There are many Nigerian priests though. Mateus G. M. F. Tibúrciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01543422737111541378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7729562980132720815.post-39988508022329705772014-02-11T10:52:18.699-06:002014-02-11T10:52:18.699-06:00I mostly agree. I think Anglican culture/art/litur...I mostly agree. I think Anglican culture/art/liturgy is sliding into banality much slower than it did in Catholicism, and that's a good thing.<br /><br />It's also a thing that I often prefer the company of my more liberal friends to many of the conservative Americanist ones. Largely, because they have more culture. They may think that desecration of the sacred is art, but they also have an appreciation for real art as well. Whilst my "conservative" Catholic friends listen to country and Christian rock, hold the voting for the GOP as the 8th and greatest sacrament, worship at the altars of capitalism, republicanism, American exceptionalism, etc.Aaron Traashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438990965997991020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7729562980132720815.post-28729259189129097152014-02-10T23:33:27.828-06:002014-02-10T23:33:27.828-06:00Also, I think my description of liberal Episcopali...Also, I think my description of liberal Episcopalians probably applies more to laity than to clergy. Stridently liberal Episcopal clergy (from which I am spared in Dallas) may be impatient with the traditional attributes I listed and more likely to favor the sort of changes you describe.Theodore Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16242452485576182841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7729562980132720815.post-78240839215647166722014-02-10T17:44:18.034-06:002014-02-10T17:44:18.034-06:00I'm very sorry to hear that...hence my phrase ...I'm very sorry to hear that...hence my phrase "far from unchallenged." However, I know there are still plenty of aesthetically traditional options for Episcopalians in the northern NJ/NYC area. Grace Church Newark and (in NYC) St Mary the Virgin ("Smoky Mary's) Times Square are probably the epitome of the sort of odd liberal/traditional combination I'm talking about, that Novus Ordo RC modernists wouldn't really like.Theodore Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16242452485576182841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7729562980132720815.post-92024184866248558282014-02-10T17:37:41.781-06:002014-02-10T17:37:41.781-06:00Mostly fair. But I've seen the traditional asp...Mostly fair. But I've seen the traditional aspects of liberal anglicanism waver. An Episcopalian church not too far from me, where some of my in-laws are members, 5 years ago had beautiful lessons and carols every year. Gorgeous, expertly performed traditional English and Latin hymns. Even some Catholic stuff -- they had a lovely rendition of the angelus years back, certainly better than I'd heard in any Catholic church, traditional or no. <br /><br />They got a woman "priest" as a pastor, and ever since then, they've gone more "multicultural". They've added South American and African folk songs to the mix. Though I have nothing wrong with those sorts of music per se, they were disharmonious and discontinuous when performed alongside Byrd, Handel, etc. I've heard that at their regular Sunday services, they're including folksy 70's stuff that you'd hear in a modern Catholic church. I'm sure it's expertly performed crap, but crap nonetheless.Aaron Traashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438990965997991020noreply@blogger.com